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	<title>Comments on: Bullshit A List Apart Advice: Never Discuss Your Salary</title>
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		<title>By: Read This Link &#187; Bullshit A List Apart Advice: Never Discuss Your Salary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Read This Link &#187; Bullshit A List Apart Advice: Never Discuss Your Salary</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Stefan Hayden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan Hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 11:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree that perhaps you did not mean it that way the quote I use is pulled directly from the list of the &quot;full-time hero&quot; with a &quot;Salary&quot; and that sounds like an employee to me.

I definitely don&#039;t want to make any statement toward freelance contract work as I have basically zero experience with it.

thanks for the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that perhaps you did not mean it that way the quote I use is pulled directly from the list of the &#8220;full-time hero&#8221; with a &#8220;Salary&#8221; and that sounds like an employee to me.</p>
<p>I definitely don&#8217;t want to make any statement toward freelance contract work as I have basically zero experience with it.</p>
<p>thanks for the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith LaFerriere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith LaFerriere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 10:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Stefan:

Actually, &quot;A List Apart&quot; didn&#039;t say those things, I did. And I&#039;ve read your post three times now with the same conclusion: I think you may have missed my intention with this sentiment.

Workers have every right to share whatever they want. If you&#039;re a union, you would normally discuss your salary and benefits openly since the purpose is a fair wage for all.

However, if you&#039;re in a situation where you find yourself THAT different in pay for your skills, then something went wrong with either the homework done to get the job (salary hunting) or you didn&#039;t negotiate up.

My statement is that you shouldn&#039;t share your financial arrangement with an employee unless you&#039;re ready to accept the consequences. 

I do feel, however, that one should NEVER discuss a freelance rate with a member of the client staff who isn&#039;t involved in your contract. That is simply off-limits and could lead in some cases to termination. 

For what it&#039;s worth, I get your point. I just feel that there&#039;s more to the story.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Stefan:</p>
<p>Actually, &#8220;A List Apart&#8221; didn&#8217;t say those things, I did. And I&#8217;ve read your post three times now with the same conclusion: I think you may have missed my intention with this sentiment.</p>
<p>Workers have every right to share whatever they want. If you&#8217;re a union, you would normally discuss your salary and benefits openly since the purpose is a fair wage for all.</p>
<p>However, if you&#8217;re in a situation where you find yourself THAT different in pay for your skills, then something went wrong with either the homework done to get the job (salary hunting) or you didn&#8217;t negotiate up.</p>
<p>My statement is that you shouldn&#8217;t share your financial arrangement with an employee unless you&#8217;re ready to accept the consequences. </p>
<p>I do feel, however, that one should NEVER discuss a freelance rate with a member of the client staff who isn&#8217;t involved in your contract. That is simply off-limits and could lead in some cases to termination. </p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I get your point. I just feel that there&#8217;s more to the story.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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